Post by Jamie Cooper on Oct 10, 2011 22:48:42 GMT -4
Okay, This is the exact same thing I sent to all of the members of the Cooper family. In retrospect, I should have just make a thread for it, since it's kinda a pain in the butt for everyone to send their responses to everyone else.
I've only had responses from Annamarie and Sawyer sent to me so far, so if Nick and Alexis could respond as well, that'd be great
. And I'd appreciate it if Sawyer and Annamarie could perhaps post their responses on here as well, regardless if they've sent it to everyone else already. Thanks
The Cooper family needs to collaborate, at least a little bit, about what/how, exactly, the Cooper family is. Things like:
-The last child’s name, gender, age
-The location of the official family place
-The numbers of the pack
-Traditions of the pack, and
-How were they raised
-What’s some small events that happened throughout their childhood
-How did they react together as siblings...
I have already created my own general thoughts on these; how I believed the family would be an’ whatnot.
Last Child
Honestly, I don’t really care about the character’s other information, so much of whether or not we think it would have ditched the family like Nick, Alexis, and Annamarie, or if it stayed with the family. Statistically, I believe it probably would have stayed with the family, since I think it’s a little excessive that three children of an alpha pair of a rogue pack just up and left >.< .
Location, Location, Location
To me, what would make the most sense would be Louisiana, mostly because of how I perceive the pack to be, and its history. That and it just so happens to be home to some of the most gorgeous Plantation Mansions. I imagine the Cooper pack to be quite big; numbering between twenty-five to fifty members total. Therefore, they would need a large place to accommodate for those numbers. The joys of the Plantation mansions, is that many of them would still have had the smaller buildings that would have been used for slaves, and they could have easily renovated those houses if the house became full (which it probably is).
Here’s some suggestions to mansions I found:
1. ** www.eplans.com/plantation_house-plans/HWEPL12050.hwx
2. www.eplans.com/plantation_house-plans/HWEPL55389.hwx
3. www.eplans.com/plantation_house-plans/HWEPL08339.hwx
4. ** houseplansandmore.com/homeplans/houseplan024S-0008.aspx
5. ** www.houseplans.com/9360-square-fe....-4-garage-35178
The ones with stars in front of them(1, 4, and 5) were the ones I was thinking would best work, simply because it would be an older house (at least a couple centuries old), and I thought that the architecture in those particular buildings better matched the time period.
Numbers
As I mentioned before, I imagined the pack to be quite large, with a general maximum of 50, and a general minimum of 25.
Traditions of the pack
Okay, I organized this into two categories, and it’s quite general. There’s the ‘traditional wolf pack’ traditions, which is, basically, what I believed any other traditional werewolf pack would do, and then there’s the rogue section, which would be traditions and dynamics that would be specific to rogues, though not to the “traditional wolf packs”, because some of the traditional wolf packs wouldn’t necessarily be rogues. These are things I believe that the Cooper pack would conform to, with the exception of Rogue #3, involving schooling. I believe that is probably widely open to debate.
Traditional Werewolf Pack[/b]
1. Traditional werewolf packs are highly similar to those of their cousin’s packs, the wolves. There is an Alpha pair who lead the pack, and all reform to the Alphas- no dispute.
2. An incredibly close-knit family. They are all highly supportive of each other, even if they can be very competitive amongst each other.
3. Generally very physical; both in the violent and tender sense. They enjoy things from the extremes of beating one of the members down into submission, to cuddling and caring for an injured, sick, etc, member. They like being close with each other. It offers a sense of security and love.
4. Their love is most often shown in the ‘tough love’ form. Smacking a fellow pack member, or beating them until they submit is considered better for the member, as well as the pack as a whole. It helps establish the ever-shifting dominance and helps the members of the pack learn who they are (ie; enforcer-enforces the rules of the alphas, also does a majority of the grunt work when fighting against another pack; peacemaker-lowers the tension that frequently grows in dominance-seeking situations; etc).
5. Disabilities are considered disgracing. Unless the disabled is able to over-come their disability and conquer a moderate to high ranking member, they are considered ‘lesser’ creatures.
6. The first change (shift) of a pack member is a huge event, and often accompanied by a large party, which eventually ends in ceremony with the whole pack shifting and hunting.
7. Often it is the eldest (son) who takes over the pack as alpha when the parents retire or pass away. Exceptions are made when the child does not meet the pack quota.
8. While arguments between neighbouring packs are frequent, and can become quite hostile, an effort is always made between the neighbouring packs to ensure the best relationship between them as possible.
9. Complicated social hierarchy. To gain dominance over another, the werewolf must challenge the dominant position and beat them in a physical (and sometimes fatal) duel. There are exceptions. Sometimes a werewolf can wedge themselves naturally into a position through their attitude and personality, and they will not be challenged for taking this position. Family blood lines also have an influence on rankings, and often the alpha pair’s children will have higher ranking than some of the other members, regardless of whether or not those members had been there for decades.
10. Generally very active and take pride in physically active accomplishments.
11. ‘Earning’ what you desire is a very popular form in traditional werewolf packs. If you want something, you literately have to fight whoever stands in your way to get it. This is more commonly used between two different packs over territory, prey, and females.
12. (Since we’re on the subject.) While females are considered equal to men in the sense that they can do the same things, they are also considered to be objects for their male mates or male parental figure. They are cherished and groomed to behave in a certain way. If another male came along and challenged their mate/father, and won, then their opinions are not allowed to be made. The transaction is considered fair and binding until she is won back. In marriage the female often still stays home to manage the house and children.
13. In theory, all youngsters are raised the same under the traditional ‘tough love’, however for males in particular, the lesson is hammered in with more depth and strength. Males are supposed to be the protecting and slightly dominating of the genders (exceptions to being dominating are most relevant in alpha pairs, where both should be the exact same in dominance factors). They are often more aggressive and display feats of physical strength when they can. In marriage, the male still goes out and makes the money that supports the whole family.
14. It is encouraged for promising (potential alpha) mating pairs to have many children. It is not uncommon for an alpha pair to have five to twelve children, while other mating pairs may just have one to four.
15. The utmost loyalty and respect, from every member, is expected towards the alpha pair and the pack.
16. All members of the pack often live on the same property, despite that most of the pack will not likely have direct (if any) blood ties to the alpha pair.
17. Traditional Werewolf Packs often date back centuries, and each pack should have a book, recording every pack member, alpha, and any distinct issues or revelations that occurred in different generations.
18. Very nature-oriented. A Traditional Werewolf Pack’s property will likely be very large and back onto (if not, include) a large stretch of natural environment in which the pack makes their territory.
Rogue Dynamics- [/b](dynamics specific to the rogue packs)
1. Full moons are hunting nights. Often the prey is a human that has been caught, and will be released, maximum, an hour before the pack departs on their hunting expedition. The Alphas will begin the hunt with a signal, and the rest of the pack will follow and partake in the hunting down of the prey. The one to land the killing blow must offer the corpse to the Alpha pair. The Alphas then have first choice to the remains, after which the killer, and then the rest of the pack members that were physically present for the kill.
2. It is disgraceful for a member of the pack to have never killed a human. If a wolf has not made his or her kill by the age of seventeen, the pack will bring a human to them to kill, so long as they show that they have no intentions on going out for their kill on their own. If they refuse to take the offered kill, the wolf is shunned and automatically considered 'lesser' and has the lowest ranking in the pack, regardless of previous ranking.
3. For schooling, the youngsters are either home schooled, or sent to a small-community, werewolf-exclusive school.
4. While Traditional Werewolf Packs are against cross-breeding with any other race, rogues find this to be a completely disdainful act. Even more so if the other pairing is a human.
5. While they don’t support cross-race relationships, rogue werewolves in particular respect the other supernatural races, and open their arms to the rogues of other races to help them in the ever-tolling plight of the human infestation.
6. Highly unforgiving in the sense that they never seem to let anything go. They cling to the hatred that formed in their history, back when supernaturals were known to be more than just fairy tales, and humans slaughtered them. Despite it being so long ago, and that humans have almost, since them, forgotten of the supernatural existence, the rogue werewolves in particular still hold this above the heads of the humans. They are also less likely to forgive another pack or group for a negative act (of varying degrees in severity) they have committed that effects the pack itself.
I can’t really say I have much else involving the other subjects, other than that I don’t think the Cooper parents would have been that bad of parents. They were probably just very... gruff, and I imagine that Marie (the mother) would be the one who would assert herself more often; or, at least to the children.
Other than that, I’ve come up with a quick summery of a near-by neighbouring Traditional Rogue Werewolf Pack, alpha’ed by the ‘Levingtons’.
The only reason I created these guys is ‘cause it’s relevant to Jamie’s history, and really no other reason xD.
Alphas: John and Beatrice Levington
Children: Darren, Lawrence, Shawn, Ashlee, and Correy Levington
Other possible pack member names: Sharon, Tim, Ophelia, Samuel, and Peter.
Estimated number of members in their pack: 39
So yeah, that’s about it, really. Hope you guys give me some input, and whether or not you think this would be an okay history’ish thing for them.
I've only had responses from Annamarie and Sawyer sent to me so far, so if Nick and Alexis could respond as well, that'd be great
. And I'd appreciate it if Sawyer and Annamarie could perhaps post their responses on here as well, regardless if they've sent it to everyone else already. Thanks The Cooper family needs to collaborate, at least a little bit, about what/how, exactly, the Cooper family is. Things like:
-The last child’s name, gender, age
-The location of the official family place
-The numbers of the pack
-Traditions of the pack, and
-How were they raised
-What’s some small events that happened throughout their childhood
-How did they react together as siblings...
I have already created my own general thoughts on these; how I believed the family would be an’ whatnot.
Last Child
Honestly, I don’t really care about the character’s other information, so much of whether or not we think it would have ditched the family like Nick, Alexis, and Annamarie, or if it stayed with the family. Statistically, I believe it probably would have stayed with the family, since I think it’s a little excessive that three children of an alpha pair of a rogue pack just up and left >.< .
Location, Location, Location
To me, what would make the most sense would be Louisiana, mostly because of how I perceive the pack to be, and its history. That and it just so happens to be home to some of the most gorgeous Plantation Mansions. I imagine the Cooper pack to be quite big; numbering between twenty-five to fifty members total. Therefore, they would need a large place to accommodate for those numbers. The joys of the Plantation mansions, is that many of them would still have had the smaller buildings that would have been used for slaves, and they could have easily renovated those houses if the house became full (which it probably is).
Here’s some suggestions to mansions I found:
1. ** www.eplans.com/plantation_house-plans/HWEPL12050.hwx
2. www.eplans.com/plantation_house-plans/HWEPL55389.hwx
3. www.eplans.com/plantation_house-plans/HWEPL08339.hwx
4. ** houseplansandmore.com/homeplans/houseplan024S-0008.aspx
5. ** www.houseplans.com/9360-square-fe....-4-garage-35178
The ones with stars in front of them(1, 4, and 5) were the ones I was thinking would best work, simply because it would be an older house (at least a couple centuries old), and I thought that the architecture in those particular buildings better matched the time period.
Numbers
As I mentioned before, I imagined the pack to be quite large, with a general maximum of 50, and a general minimum of 25.
Traditions of the pack
Okay, I organized this into two categories, and it’s quite general. There’s the ‘traditional wolf pack’ traditions, which is, basically, what I believed any other traditional werewolf pack would do, and then there’s the rogue section, which would be traditions and dynamics that would be specific to rogues, though not to the “traditional wolf packs”, because some of the traditional wolf packs wouldn’t necessarily be rogues. These are things I believe that the Cooper pack would conform to, with the exception of Rogue #3, involving schooling. I believe that is probably widely open to debate.
Traditional Werewolf Pack[/b]
1. Traditional werewolf packs are highly similar to those of their cousin’s packs, the wolves. There is an Alpha pair who lead the pack, and all reform to the Alphas- no dispute.
2. An incredibly close-knit family. They are all highly supportive of each other, even if they can be very competitive amongst each other.
3. Generally very physical; both in the violent and tender sense. They enjoy things from the extremes of beating one of the members down into submission, to cuddling and caring for an injured, sick, etc, member. They like being close with each other. It offers a sense of security and love.
4. Their love is most often shown in the ‘tough love’ form. Smacking a fellow pack member, or beating them until they submit is considered better for the member, as well as the pack as a whole. It helps establish the ever-shifting dominance and helps the members of the pack learn who they are (ie; enforcer-enforces the rules of the alphas, also does a majority of the grunt work when fighting against another pack; peacemaker-lowers the tension that frequently grows in dominance-seeking situations; etc).
5. Disabilities are considered disgracing. Unless the disabled is able to over-come their disability and conquer a moderate to high ranking member, they are considered ‘lesser’ creatures.
6. The first change (shift) of a pack member is a huge event, and often accompanied by a large party, which eventually ends in ceremony with the whole pack shifting and hunting.
7. Often it is the eldest (son) who takes over the pack as alpha when the parents retire or pass away. Exceptions are made when the child does not meet the pack quota.
8. While arguments between neighbouring packs are frequent, and can become quite hostile, an effort is always made between the neighbouring packs to ensure the best relationship between them as possible.
9. Complicated social hierarchy. To gain dominance over another, the werewolf must challenge the dominant position and beat them in a physical (and sometimes fatal) duel. There are exceptions. Sometimes a werewolf can wedge themselves naturally into a position through their attitude and personality, and they will not be challenged for taking this position. Family blood lines also have an influence on rankings, and often the alpha pair’s children will have higher ranking than some of the other members, regardless of whether or not those members had been there for decades.
10. Generally very active and take pride in physically active accomplishments.
11. ‘Earning’ what you desire is a very popular form in traditional werewolf packs. If you want something, you literately have to fight whoever stands in your way to get it. This is more commonly used between two different packs over territory, prey, and females.
12. (Since we’re on the subject.) While females are considered equal to men in the sense that they can do the same things, they are also considered to be objects for their male mates or male parental figure. They are cherished and groomed to behave in a certain way. If another male came along and challenged their mate/father, and won, then their opinions are not allowed to be made. The transaction is considered fair and binding until she is won back. In marriage the female often still stays home to manage the house and children.
13. In theory, all youngsters are raised the same under the traditional ‘tough love’, however for males in particular, the lesson is hammered in with more depth and strength. Males are supposed to be the protecting and slightly dominating of the genders (exceptions to being dominating are most relevant in alpha pairs, where both should be the exact same in dominance factors). They are often more aggressive and display feats of physical strength when they can. In marriage, the male still goes out and makes the money that supports the whole family.
14. It is encouraged for promising (potential alpha) mating pairs to have many children. It is not uncommon for an alpha pair to have five to twelve children, while other mating pairs may just have one to four.
15. The utmost loyalty and respect, from every member, is expected towards the alpha pair and the pack.
16. All members of the pack often live on the same property, despite that most of the pack will not likely have direct (if any) blood ties to the alpha pair.
17. Traditional Werewolf Packs often date back centuries, and each pack should have a book, recording every pack member, alpha, and any distinct issues or revelations that occurred in different generations.
18. Very nature-oriented. A Traditional Werewolf Pack’s property will likely be very large and back onto (if not, include) a large stretch of natural environment in which the pack makes their territory.
Rogue Dynamics- [/b](dynamics specific to the rogue packs)
1. Full moons are hunting nights. Often the prey is a human that has been caught, and will be released, maximum, an hour before the pack departs on their hunting expedition. The Alphas will begin the hunt with a signal, and the rest of the pack will follow and partake in the hunting down of the prey. The one to land the killing blow must offer the corpse to the Alpha pair. The Alphas then have first choice to the remains, after which the killer, and then the rest of the pack members that were physically present for the kill.
2. It is disgraceful for a member of the pack to have never killed a human. If a wolf has not made his or her kill by the age of seventeen, the pack will bring a human to them to kill, so long as they show that they have no intentions on going out for their kill on their own. If they refuse to take the offered kill, the wolf is shunned and automatically considered 'lesser' and has the lowest ranking in the pack, regardless of previous ranking.
3. For schooling, the youngsters are either home schooled, or sent to a small-community, werewolf-exclusive school.
4. While Traditional Werewolf Packs are against cross-breeding with any other race, rogues find this to be a completely disdainful act. Even more so if the other pairing is a human.
5. While they don’t support cross-race relationships, rogue werewolves in particular respect the other supernatural races, and open their arms to the rogues of other races to help them in the ever-tolling plight of the human infestation.
6. Highly unforgiving in the sense that they never seem to let anything go. They cling to the hatred that formed in their history, back when supernaturals were known to be more than just fairy tales, and humans slaughtered them. Despite it being so long ago, and that humans have almost, since them, forgotten of the supernatural existence, the rogue werewolves in particular still hold this above the heads of the humans. They are also less likely to forgive another pack or group for a negative act (of varying degrees in severity) they have committed that effects the pack itself.
I can’t really say I have much else involving the other subjects, other than that I don’t think the Cooper parents would have been that bad of parents. They were probably just very... gruff, and I imagine that Marie (the mother) would be the one who would assert herself more often; or, at least to the children.
Other than that, I’ve come up with a quick summery of a near-by neighbouring Traditional Rogue Werewolf Pack, alpha’ed by the ‘Levingtons’.
The only reason I created these guys is ‘cause it’s relevant to Jamie’s history, and really no other reason xD.
Alphas: John and Beatrice Levington
Children: Darren, Lawrence, Shawn, Ashlee, and Correy Levington
Other possible pack member names: Sharon, Tim, Ophelia, Samuel, and Peter.
Estimated number of members in their pack: 39
So yeah, that’s about it, really. Hope you guys give me some input, and whether or not you think this would be an okay history’ish thing for them.
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